Prop. 8 battle rages over whether gay marriage would be taught in schools

Proponents say defeat of the measure would lead to such lessons. Foes cry fear-mongering and say there’s no mention of marriage in the ballot item. The reality is complicated.

Days of Lot

“And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded. But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed. ”
—Luke 17:26-30

“Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.”
—Jude 1:7

It was supposed to be a 90-minute excursion, a noontime field trip for a group of San Francisco charter school students and their parents to see the kids’ lesbian teacher marry her partner in a wedding performed by Mayor Gavin Newsom.

But after the event was reported in the San Francisco Chronicle and picked up by cable television and the Internet, the first-graders at Creative Arts Charter School found themselves at the center of the hottest battle in the campaign over gay marriage: the question of whether failure to pass Proposition 8 would result in widespread classroom discussions of same-sex unions.

Supporters of the constitutional amendment, under which marriage would be defined as only between a man and a woman, contend that if Proposition 8 does not pass, gay marriage will be taught in public schools. “We are already seeing that happen,” said Frank Schubert, campaign manager for Yes on 8.

The opposing side insists that this is fear-mongering and notes that there is no mention of schools or curriculum in the language of the proposition.

“They just made something up in order to scare people and change the subject,” said Shannon Minter, legal director for the National Center for Lesbian Rights.

To buttress their case, Proposition 8 supporters point to a legal decision out of Massachusetts, where same-sex couples have been able to wed since 2004. After a second-grade teacher in Lexington read a book to her students that included two princes marrying, the parents of a child in the class sued the school district.

The parents, devout Christians who oppose gay marriage, contended that the teacher had read the book to her class “for the express purpose of indoctrinating them into the concept that homosexuality and marriage between same-sex partners is moral.” This, they said, intruded on their “right to direct the moral upbringing of their own children.”

A federal court dismissed the case, finding it without merit, and earlier this month, the U.S. Supreme Court refused to hear an appeal of the dismissal, letting the lower court’s ruling stand.

The child’s parents will be featured in a new Proposition 8 ad that will begin airing this week.

School districts and the California Department of Education, meanwhile, are getting a steady stream of calls from the media and parents wanting to know whether gay marriage will be taught in schools if Proposition 8 is defeated.

The answer, it turns out, is slightly more complicated than can be captured in the 30-second television advertisements put out by both sides.

There is nothing in the state education code that requires schools to teach anything about marriage. Even the decision about whether to offer comprehensive sex education is left up to individual school districts.

What state law does require is that districts that offer sex education “teach respect for marriage and committed relationships.”

Districts have taken different approaches.

The Los Angeles Unified School District offers ninth-graders a “Life Skills” class that deals with a variety of issues, including personal identity and relationships. A district spokeswoman said marriage is not a specific part of that curriculum but could come up as part of classroom discussion.

In Fresno, meanwhile, district policy is that teachers do not address the subject of gay marriage in the classroom; students who ask about it are told to raise the issue with their families, according to district officials.

Hilary McLean, spokeswoman for Jack O’Connell, the state superintendent of public instruction, said she was unaware of any district that had changed its curriculum as a result of the California Supreme Court’s May ruling allowing same-sex marriage.

Still, recognizing how politically potent the issue is, the Yes on 8 campaign has made it the center of its television advertising campaign.

“Mom, guess what I learned in school today?” a little girl says in one spot. “I learned how a prince married a prince.”

As the girl’s mother makes a horrified face, a voice says: “Think it can’t happen? It’s already happened. . . . Teaching about gay marriage will happen unless we pass Proposition 8.”

In response, the No on 8 side put out an ad called “Proponents of Proposition 8 Are Using Lies to Scare You.”

As television screens flicker Big Brother-like in the background, a voice says: “Prop. 8 will not affect teaching in schools.”

To counter that, the Yes on 8 side issued a blast e-mail last week titled, “Who Is Really Lying,” which accused the No on 8 side of wanting gay marriage to be taught “at the youngest possible age.”

In San Francisco, Newsom said he didn’t know the schoolchildren would be attending their teacher’s wedding, and a spokesman for the mayor said he does not endorse the idea of children leaving school to go to weddings — no matter who is getting married.

“First-graders should be in class during the day,” said Nathan Ballard, communications director for Newsom.

7 Comments

Joshua Steele says Comment posted on October 19th, 2008

And that’s the generation we live in.

Lord, come quickly!

becca says Comment posted on October 19th, 2008

The good ole’ days of going to public school for reading, writing and arithmetic are long gone. My grandparents tell me of a time when the Bible was used as a text book to teach reading and science in the public school they attended. My mother recalls when her teacher broke the news that they could no longer do their daily Bible lesson due to new laws. What a horrible tragedy in this once great nation. We can’t mention the Jesus Christ or the Bible unless we are doing so negatively but every other god and belief are highly respected and dealt with oh-so carefully…..in fact some of the religions (wicca and Islam) are pretty much taught in several public schools. Then we come to the point where the public education system, a failure by any reasonable measure, wants to teach our kids their version of morality. Since when did holding a teaching degree or being a school official become the equivalent of having the right to teach other people’s children what is and isn’t right or moral??? In fact, last time I checked we parents foot the bill that pays teachers so I think we have a right to decide what should and shouldn’t be taught. Homosexual activists have infiltrated everything and they MUST be countered. Like so many other sin laden situations in our land, this must be dealt with by Christians taking a stand and standing until it changes. If we have to die fighting then so be it. I’m sorry for this long rant, but I am sick and tired of this….

Linda says Comment posted on October 20th, 2008

Becca,

I just recently heard that in addition to the obvious reasons for studying the Bible, our founding fathers also wanted the Bible studied in school so that no one would be taken advantage of in life, since the Bible was so greatly used in all our original documents & in law-making.

I didn’t know that wicca is being taught in some schools. You’re right, it is a horrible tragedy what is happening in this once great nation. And if we don’t take a stand against these things, it will just get worse.

Put on the Armor of G-D!

becca says Comment posted on October 21st, 2008

Linda: Our nation was founded, mainly, by God fearing men. I’m sure you’ve heard how Thomas Jefferson was actually gained the idea for democracy in a Baptist Church. There are so many quotes and historical documents that evidence the fact that our nation was a Christian nation but we never hear that taught in public education. I am in my late 20′s and I was taught in pub. ed. that the pilgrims came over here fleeing religious persecution (which is true), but here is the twist: I was consistently taught that they didn’t want to have to worship God and they were being forced to; thus, they came here to be free from religion. Do you see how twisted and far from the truth that is? When I accepted Christ, I began studying history via good Christian literature and was shocked at the many discrepencies I had been spoon fed my entire time as a student. History revisionists have been around much longer than we realize and they weild much influence.
Regarding Wicca and witchcraft in general. Yes, some schools have actual instruction in how to go to your innerself for knowlege and directions. They will subsequently do exercises where students close their eyes, recite a mantra of some sort (seemingly peaceful and harmless), then channel their good energy. Satan steps right on in. Witches are portrayed simply as people who exercise their faith and are horribly persecuted for so doing. Just look how psychics “help” people. I could go on but my stomach is lurching ever upward. We must be vigilant in protecting ourselves and our children. Pray is our greatest weapon alongside the Scriptures.

becca says Comment posted on October 21st, 2008

Prayer is our greatest weapon alongside the Scriptures. (thats what I meant to write). I constantly forget to check my comments prior to posting….please be forgiving dear readers.

aneriz says Comment posted on October 23rd, 2008

Of course the gay agenda has always wanted to target children. It is nothing new.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&pageId=78829

casey says Comment posted on November 05th, 2008

May Prop 8 be passed. Bless you who voted to protect the sacred Union.

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